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January 02, 2009

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Nate

Joe,
Great issue to dig into on remediation. As the VP of Research and Policy Development for the Council, I've pondered your question about looking for similar data from privates, and it doesn't appear to be worthwhile, given there's an apples-oranges issue. (Privates generally structure support for students who are challenged by the main courses, rather than setting up separate non-credit courses that need to be completed. Also, given that first-time, full-time students at our colleges have the highest on-time graduation rate in the state, graduating in four-years at twice the frequency of similar students attending the U of M system, this is a different kind of issue for us than the publics.) That certainly isn't to say that there couldn't be meaningful collaboration around the core issues of how we all contribute to helping more high schools graduate more students who are prepared to do college-level work.

Joe Nathan

Nate, thanks for your note. I've looked at Minnesota Milestones, by the Minnesota Office of Higher Education, to determine 4 and 6 year graduation rates of private, as well as public colleges and universities.

www.ohe.state.mn.us/mPg.cfm?pageID=1733

Both groups,in many cases frankly, have a long way to go. Only 3 of Minnesota's 36 4 year institutions have a graduation rate of 80% or more - after 6 (right SIX) years.

As you suggest, private colleges have a higher graduation rate than public 4 year institutions. But here are graduation rates after 6 years at some of the private colleges: 51.8% (Augsburg), 23.4% Bethany Lutheran, 69.7%, Bethel, 92.8% Carleton, 79.6% College of St. Benedict, 56.9% College of St Catherine, etc.

So far too many students are not graduating from private colleges, as well as public colleges.

A conference we recently held (and which I will write about in the next week) suggested that colleges and universities need to change the way they operate.

Asking and assisting high schools to do a better job isn't enough.

Bottom line is that I think we need to get more data about how many youngsters enter private, as well as public colleges, without college level skills.

I don't know how many private colleges offer "remedial" courses - but some research on the number of students entering private colleges without college level skills in reading, writing and math seems warranted.

Joe Nathan

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